ummagawd
Field name in Apple Music and Serato is "date added"... what's the equivalent to this in VDJ?
At first I thought it was "file date", but that seems to change if I play the track. And then I thought it might be "first seen", but those dates don't correspond either.
appreciate the help
At first I thought it was "file date", but that seems to change if I play the track. And then I thought it might be "first seen", but those dates don't correspond either.
appreciate the help
Posted Tue 21 Dec 21 @ 4:41 am
Adion
First Seen is indeed the date the song was added to the VDJ database.
Posted Tue 21 Dec 21 @ 4:54 am
ummagawd
ahhh... ok that makes sense.
So in my case... I've been using apple's music (iTunes) to audition and tag my music as I download them, before playing them in Serato. Is there a way to have VDJ read that instead? Because now that I've switched over, VDJ "first saw" all of my music on the same day.
So in my case... I've been using apple's music (iTunes) to audition and tag my music as I download them, before playing them in Serato. Is there a way to have VDJ read that instead? Because now that I've switched over, VDJ "first saw" all of my music on the same day.
Posted Tue 21 Dec 21 @ 6:21 am
Adion
No, there's currently no way to import that data.
The File Date could be more accurate, as it will show the file creation date.
Using the file date column can also be a bit slower since this information is read from the files every time and not from the database.
The File Date could be more accurate, as it will show the file creation date.
Using the file date column can also be a bit slower since this information is read from the files every time and not from the database.
Posted Tue 21 Dec 21 @ 6:44 am
ummagawd
"file date" in VDJ is definitely "date modified" in iTunes and there are alot of songs that have 12/31/79 as the value for whatever reason. So this field won't help me.
is there no work around to point to this field? Seems like it should be doable if the metadata exists.
is there no work around to point to this field? Seems like it should be doable if the metadata exists.
Posted Thu 23 Dec 21 @ 1:23 am
djkomkom
Also very interested by this "added date" feature because it helps me a lot to organize my tracks (from new ones to the older ones).
Actually this is the only thing that keeps me away from using VDJ every time.
Like said previously, the File Date is not a solution since the file can be modified externally (metadata updates in Itunes for example) so it will mess the order.
If VDJ can add this info (all other Softwares have it) or provide a tool to sync it, I will be able to ditch completely Serato !
Actually this is the only thing that keeps me away from using VDJ every time.
Like said previously, the File Date is not a solution since the file can be modified externally (metadata updates in Itunes for example) so it will mess the order.
If VDJ can add this info (all other Softwares have it) or provide a tool to sync it, I will be able to ditch completely Serato !
Posted Mon 21 Nov 22 @ 11:19 pm
PhantomDeejay
If you read the thread carefully you will see that VirtualDJ has the "First Seen" field.
This field is the date that the track was "first seen" by VirtualDJ (meaning added to the database)
If you start using VirtualDJ today for the very first time, then all your tracks until now will get today's date as their "first seen" date.
However, as you keep using the software, new tracks will get different dates and therefore you'll be able to use the "first seen" field in more capacity.
PS: Generally speaking we advise users to avoid using "File Date" field.
That's because it's not stored on the database and it has to be read by the file(s) each time you browse them. Which, even with SSD's, can slow down performance when browsing folders with hundreds or thousands of files.
To get the "First seen" field on your browser, just right click on a header and check the field to be visible.
The data is allready there.
This field is the date that the track was "first seen" by VirtualDJ (meaning added to the database)
If you start using VirtualDJ today for the very first time, then all your tracks until now will get today's date as their "first seen" date.
However, as you keep using the software, new tracks will get different dates and therefore you'll be able to use the "first seen" field in more capacity.
PS: Generally speaking we advise users to avoid using "File Date" field.
That's because it's not stored on the database and it has to be read by the file(s) each time you browse them. Which, even with SSD's, can slow down performance when browsing folders with hundreds or thousands of files.
To get the "First seen" field on your browser, just right click on a header and check the field to be visible.
The data is allready there.
Posted Tue 22 Nov 22 @ 8:49 am
djkomkom
First Seen is not exactly the feature I need, let me explain:
I usually buy my music from iTunes and use iTunes as my main library management since the earlier 2010. I started using VDJ since only 2 years. So the first time I opened VDJ, all my 100k + tracks get the same Frist Seen date with a completely random order.
I buy hundred of tracks each month, sometimes I just buy the tracks and not use the VDJ for many days.
So then when I open VDJ all the latest tracks have the same First Seen date and again the order is random.
Actually I don't see the added value of First Seen feature. The Added Date info can be read by the other software, why it's not possible in VDJ ? This helps me so much for the track history and play the latest hot tracks by time frames.
Are they custom tools or scripts to manipulate VDJ libraries ?
I usually buy my music from iTunes and use iTunes as my main library management since the earlier 2010. I started using VDJ since only 2 years. So the first time I opened VDJ, all my 100k + tracks get the same Frist Seen date with a completely random order.
I buy hundred of tracks each month, sometimes I just buy the tracks and not use the VDJ for many days.
So then when I open VDJ all the latest tracks have the same First Seen date and again the order is random.
Actually I don't see the added value of First Seen feature. The Added Date info can be read by the other software, why it's not possible in VDJ ? This helps me so much for the track history and play the latest hot tracks by time frames.
Are they custom tools or scripts to manipulate VDJ libraries ?
Posted Tue 22 Nov 22 @ 12:43 pm
PhantomDeejay
I can't answer all your questions, but since I mostly use VirtualDJ for my library management, "First Seen" serves exactly the purpose you're talking about (for me)
When I get new songs, I bring them inside VirtualDJ, almost in daily basis. This means that "First Seen" is accurate enough (for me)
Also, VirtualDJ database is an XML file.
Therefore you should be able to edit it externally, but PLEASE keep backups and be extremely carefull if you wish to go that route.
However I must strongly advise that this is NOT recommended.
Finally there are also VDJ Script actions that can help you set database fileds, but I can't see how that would help in your particular case. Same goes for the ebility to batch edit database fields from the Tag Editor.
PS: If you try to just open VirtualDJ daily and just load all the new files in the database (should only take a couple of minutes each time) doesn't that workflow cover your needs ?
When I get new songs, I bring them inside VirtualDJ, almost in daily basis. This means that "First Seen" is accurate enough (for me)
Also, VirtualDJ database is an XML file.
Therefore you should be able to edit it externally, but PLEASE keep backups and be extremely carefull if you wish to go that route.
However I must strongly advise that this is NOT recommended.
Finally there are also VDJ Script actions that can help you set database fileds, but I can't see how that would help in your particular case. Same goes for the ebility to batch edit database fields from the Tag Editor.
PS: If you try to just open VirtualDJ daily and just load all the new files in the database (should only take a couple of minutes each time) doesn't that workflow cover your needs ?
Posted Tue 22 Nov 22 @ 1:21 pm
djkomkom
Still no solution for this "Date Added" field ??
Please VirtualDJ team helps me, this is the only point that blocks me from using VDJ every time in any circumstances !!
Please VirtualDJ team helps me, this is the only point that blocks me from using VDJ every time in any circumstances !!
Posted Mon 25 Nov 24 @ 10:31 pm
DJ VinylTouch
@PhantomDeejay has described the workflow I use as well - as soon as you add into the iTunes/Music app, you add it in VirtualDJ and use the First Seen column to know when the tracks were seen relative to the rest of the database (if you can open iTunes/Music to add/buy files, you can open VirtualDJ, go to the iTunes section to add thoses files - that's a couple seconds extra max).
Why/how does that workflow not work for you?
Why/how does that workflow not work for you?
Posted Mon 25 Nov 24 @ 11:20 pm
djkomkom
This workflow is quite cumbersome for many reason.
1. Cannot synchronize my macbook and my backup macbook. More generally, how to share a common database with this field using itunes ??
2. I ofen buy my music from my iphone and many days/weeks could occur before I add them in my mac so the date will not be accurate.
3. How to fix my current database (100k songs) ???
I will repeat myself but this "date added" field is available on ALL other dj softwares.
1. Cannot synchronize my macbook and my backup macbook. More generally, how to share a common database with this field using itunes ??
2. I ofen buy my music from my iphone and many days/weeks could occur before I add them in my mac so the date will not be accurate.
3. How to fix my current database (100k songs) ???
I will repeat myself but this "date added" field is available on ALL other dj softwares.
Posted Mon 25 Nov 24 @ 11:39 pm
DJ VinylTouch
djkomkom wrote :
1. Cannot synchronize my macbook and my backup macbook. More generally, how to share a common database with this field using itunes ??
1. Cannot synchronize my macbook and my backup macbook. More generally, how to share a common database with this field using itunes ??
I'm not sure I understand this 100%. The VirtualDJ database is independent of the iTunes/Music database. As long as you sync the VirtualDJ database (backup + restore,
Cloud Drive, NAS or network share) and the iTunes/Music songs with it similarly, then you have the backup laptop in the state required. Doing sync in terms of both databases would be required to be done regardless of the field being present/shown in VirtualDJ.
djkomkom wrote :
2. I ofen buy my music from my iphone and many days/weeks could occur before I add them in my mac so the date will not be accurate.
3. How to fix my current database (100k songs) ???
2. I ofen buy my music from my iphone and many days/weeks could occur before I add them in my mac so the date will not be accurate.
3. How to fix my current database (100k songs) ???
This honestly sounds like a workflow issue but I guess that's how you chose to do it. Might be worthwhile to create iTunes playlists to reflect dates or write script to dump files into lists in terms of date added.
How about the First Date field? It looks like a field that probably looks at file modification/creation dates. Could that work for you?
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I will repeat myself but this "date added" field is available on ALL other dj softwares.
I will repeat myself but this "date added" field is available on ALL other dj softwares.
Could be, but you gotta realize that iTunes support doesn't have to be a priority for the these apps as they have their own metadata/things to track that are outside of iTunes/Music. All of them recommend you just read from the database and make changes im the software (if possible, it's possibly better avoid iTunes management altogether, but that's a personal preference).
Since you've reference the presence of field there in these other apps, I would think you use them and have crates/playlists laid how you want them there. Why not just import those into VirtualDJ for the older songs (it reads the library of mainstream software), and follow the suggested routine for newer additions?
Posted Tue 26 Nov 24 @ 12:57 am
Sepatro
The "First Seen" field doesn't seem very accurate (songs I already have in my database for ages keep on turning up as recently seen)
Posted Tue 26 Nov 24 @ 11:28 am